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So, there's this game that's popular around the world. You've probably played it. You make a fist to represent a rock and a V with two fingers to represent scissors, and hold your hand straight and flat to represent paper. Two people battle by making one of the three gestures in unison with each other; rock beats scissors ("rock breaks scissors"), scissors beats paper ("scissors cuts paper"), and paper beats rock ("paper covers rock"). Sounds familiar, no?

So I'm curious to know what you called it, and how you played it.

[Poll #1514465]



In Japan they call it "Janken," short for "Jan-ken-pon," what you chant when you play. You start off by saying "Saisho wa gu" ("First is the rock") and making a fist, and then say "Jan ken PON" and on "pon" making the gesture of your choice. If there's a tie, you immediately chant "Aiko deshou" and throw the next gesture on the final syllable of "deshou." You can play it with more than two people, which BLEW MY MIND when I first saw it. It's not as cool as it sounds, though; all you do is keep doing rounds until no one throws one of the gestures (it takes a while if you have a lot of people), and then all the people with the weaker gesture are eliminated, and you continue to throw for rounds of only two objects and weed people out until there's finally one winner.

The gameplay is consistent across the board in Japan. They always do it the same way. Yet in the US, there is no consistency at all. We can't even agree on what to call it, and I don't know about you but somebody always tries to throw it on the last word while somebody else wants to say "Shoot!" and you have to stop, agree on the rules, and start over again.

Why did this come up? At Ooshima today, the students were learning to play this game in English. They were learning it from an interactive video recording (reminded me a lot of SmartBoard application, only without the SmartBoard-- the teacher had to press the buttons on his computer), but I was also there to throw a wrench in things. The recording represented the American game as "Rock, Scissors, Paper," and the chant went "Rock, Scissors, Paper, 1, 2, 3!" and then threw the gesture after "3." This confused the heck out of me (especially when he asked me to chant the game in unison with the recording before hearing the recording first) because I called it "Paper, Scissors, Rock" and if I ever said anything after it, it was "Shoot!" or nothing at all. So then I had fun explaining to him that no, I'm not an uncultured buffoon who doesn't even know how to play English Janken, but that there isn't consistency across the board as far as how it should be played. (I know people who say "Shoot!" and people who don't, and I've had arguments with people about whether it's "Rock, Paper, Scissors" or "Paper Scissors Rock." I'm waiting to see the results of the poll, but I think it's possible that in spite of our inconsistencies nobody plays this game the way it was represented in the recording!

Date: 2010-01-21 09:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scorpiuspro.livejournal.com
*Note*

Only RARELY do I bring on another object besides the original three and only for humor purposes

i.e. I bring on The Penis: smashes Rock, makes Paper wet, but is vulnerable to scissors

Date: 2010-01-21 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tabular-rasa.livejournal.com
Well then everyone would play either Penis or Scissors every round, since those two can beat two objects where Rock and Paper only beat one but are vulnerable to two.

I don't know if we can date anymore, man. This is deep-rooted-from-childhood pet peeve territory right here :-P

Date: 2010-01-21 09:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scorpiuspro.livejournal.com
Oh believe me, it's a gamble to bring on The Penis in this game. It takes real balls. Question is, can you handle The Penis and risk a throw of Scissors or have you Rock smashed or Paper spooged on?
You cannot resist The Penis. It rises to the occasion and penetrates it's enemies with sheer brute strength.
Too bad, you could've been dating an epic Penis thrower......wait what?

COME BACK TO MEEEEEEE!!!!!

Date: 2010-01-21 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tabular-rasa.livejournal.com
:-P You know I'd never leave you. But this is one situation in which your penis is not welcome!

Also, I love how Penis beats Rock. That is absolutely unrealistic and yet so predictably male.

*Hugs.*

Date: 2010-01-21 10:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scorpiuspro.livejournal.com
Hey you can always throw The Vagina: engulfs Rock, uses paper as a pad or tampon, and yet is also vulnerable to scissors (via clitorectomy)

....new low, took this one way too far!

Point is, no matter what I'll always want you vagina in any case

Date: 2010-01-21 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tabular-rasa.livejournal.com
. . . and we're just gonna stop this thread right here. LOL. O.o

Date: 2010-01-21 10:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scorpiuspro.livejournal.com
Agreed.

But it was a good run of weirdness for sure ;)

Date: 2010-01-21 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mona-lisa-73.livejournal.com
I spot your shirt on your chair, Robert. You are FOILED.

Date: 2010-01-22 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scorpiuspro.livejournal.com
Okay, I have to admit, I have no idea what you're talking about. Elaborate, Litha!!

Date: 2010-01-22 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mona-lisa-73.livejournal.com
I can see your shirt on your chair in your icon there. It is YOU! Also, I am familiar with your "sketchy face".

Date: 2010-01-23 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tabular-rasa.livejournal.com
All of his icons except one are of him, lol. He might be even more vain than me :-P And all of them except one are animated and weirdly hypnotizing O.o

Mom's Results

Date: 2010-01-21 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tabular-rasa.livejournal.com
Rock Paper Scissors
1,2,3 simultaneous go!
Yes
When you were a kid

Flick's Results

Date: 2010-01-22 05:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tabular-rasa.livejournal.com
Rock, Scissors, Paper
Chant the three, AFTER the last one.
Yes.
Yes.

Shak's Results

Date: 2010-01-22 05:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tabular-rasa.livejournal.com
Rock, Paper, Scissors
Chant the three, say Go, on Go
No, one person only.
No.

Date: 2010-01-21 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orgasmicpsyduck.livejournal.com
I don't exactly make a habit of playing with more than one other person at a time, but it's surprisingly effective for determining who's in for the first round of a Super Smash Bros. Melee session.

Date: 2010-01-21 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] just-you-wait.livejournal.com
I grew up throwing on scissors, but now I think throwing on Shoot is more common. Anyway, you're always supposed to agree with your opponent beforehand.

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